ATTENTION:

2005-09-20 [Avoral]: Psh. You'd be a horrible zombie.

2005-09-20 [Lost in Illusions]: oh well. I'm a horrible human.. at least it'd be something different.

2005-09-20 [Angelic nightmares]: I'd be a Hamburger eating Zombie

2005-09-20 [Avoral]: Not you, I was talking about the wolf-type. (By the way, do you only exist at midnight, then?)

2005-09-20 [Lost in Illusions]: so I have your permission to be a zombie? Yay.

2005-09-20 [Avoral]: Of course! You're the bestest zombie ever, The Chris!

2005-09-20 [Angelic nightmares]: No....why do you ask?

2005-09-20 [Avoral]: Are you just a wolf at midnight?

2005-09-20 [Lost in Illusions]: yippee! ^_^ Yeah, people here dont know that my name is "Chris" Because Spaz calls me "Kitt" and he introduces me to everyone as "kitt" So that's my name in Myrtle Beach. Kitt.

2005-09-20 [Avoral]: Kitt. Wow.

2005-09-21 [Lost in Illusions]: I really have no idea how that emerged. But that's my name.. it has been for the five years I'd known him.. in fact, I saw him for the first time last month, and he called me that name, and I was like "wow." because I hadnt heard it in so long.. and I just spun around and ran up to him and tackled him. ^_^

2005-09-21 [Avoral]: Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! OUR LITTLE THE CHRIS IS IN LOVE!

2005-09-21 [Lost in Illusions]: yeah... hardly. I do love him, but we're just close like that. He's helped me through a lot and has put up with more stuff from me than he probably should have. I seriously value our friendship.

2005-09-21 [Avoral]: Ah, neat.

2005-09-21 [Lost in Illusions]: yes. very much so. *sigh* I'm lonely. -_-

2005-09-21 [mutant virago]: Oh aren't we all. :P

2005-09-21 [Angelic nightmares]: Everyone ish.....especially when ya got someone, trying to come inbetween you and the love of your life.......

2005-09-21 [Lost in Illusions]: okay, this is not "Love Connection" Let's find something a bit more .. pleasant to talk about.

2005-09-21 [Avoral]: *Connects with love* How about prawns?

2005-09-21 [Lost in Illusions]: Hmmm.. I prefer sardines, but those will do.

2005-09-22 [Angelic nightmares]: Sea food gross.....but that's just my opinion

2005-09-22 [Lost in Illusions]: well, since we obviously seem to have digressed from the point of this wiki here's a topic. Everyone state their opinion on what the meaning of "goth" associated with this wiki actually means. Paragraph form, no less than 5 sentences. There's something for you to think on.

2005-09-22 [Angelic nightmares]: My opinion? Its a state of mind really. Mostly dealing with the olden days, with the castles that have the gargoyles on them. I honestly can't see how wearing black eye liner and black clothes makes you gothic. I sometimes wear eye liner, and I almost always wear black, but that doesn't mean that I'm goth. The black eye-liner crap, in my eyes is "modern goth". I mean, walking thru a school hallway, you see someone in all black, your going to assume that their gothic. But, what if they just like wearing black? You've just labeled them somehting that their not. ~Anyways...thats my opinion....

2005-09-22 [cuntstitches]: Goth has nothing to do with architecture. Goth was just a term that was used to describe the music, and then the fans were called goths as a consequence of it. Goth is much like punk. A bunch of people who like the music and have similar ideals. Fashion does play a small role, but you don't have to dress goth to be a goth. Oh yes, and 'dressing goth' does not refer exclusively to black clothing, shitty make-up, and a lack of hygiene. That's just neo-goths.

2005-09-22 [Angelic nightmares]: I respect your opinion, but when you look at old bulidings and such, they describe them as "gothic"

2005-09-22 [Lost in Illusions]: [coming soon:] my essay on the history of goth and the modern interpretations.

2005-09-22 [Spanakopida]: I don't think that's a good idea. The point of the wiki is to not tell people what goth is in the first place so they can't bullshit past us. That's why cuntstitches didn't put up an explination, or, other reasons like, everyone has their own interpretation and suchlike.

2005-09-22 [Spanakopida]: Also, I've already told everyone, like 3 times. I'm too assed to tell everyone again.

2005-09-22 [cuntstitches]: But we're not talking about buildings. This is about the subculture.

2005-09-22 [Lost in Illusions]: oO I just was going to write a little something about it..its origins, history, including the cultures from the 1800s and early 1900s up to modern-day.

2005-09-23 [Avoral]: *Checks off "Subculture," "Architecture," and the Free Space* *Waits for "Victorian Age" and "Old Germanic Tribe"*

2005-09-23 [Lost in Illusions]: there are a lot of archaic descriptions for "goth" though the one that this wiki is geared towards is the modern-day genre based on the music popular among a consensus.

2005-09-23 [Angelic nightmares]: Then in that case......I still think Goth is a state of mind.....

2005-09-23 [Lost in Illusions]: eennnnnggh *imitates buzzer*

2005-09-23 [Spanakopida]: then write it for yourself and don't post it here.

2005-09-23 [Avoral]: *Waits on bingo*

2005-09-23 [Lost in Illusions]: I-8 a chicken wrap. BINGO!!

2005-09-25 [Infiltration. Subversion. Chaos. Fun.]: Are you the only remaining Goths on Elftown?

2005-09-25 [Lost in Illusions]: I honestly dont consider myself a "goth" I just like uprooting the stereotypes and pseudo-truths.

2005-09-25 [Infiltration. Subversion. Chaos. Fun.]: But the rest of those on here? I've realized that actual Goths hereabouts are extremely rare.

2005-09-25 [Lost in Illusions]: aye. I suppose you could call me a goth of sorts, since my values and ideals are geared towards the way that life was lived in the late 1800s and early 1900s, otherwise known as the victorian/gothic era in literature and art.

2005-09-25 [Infiltration. Subversion. Chaos. Fun.]: So I surmised, given the conversation hitherto.

2005-09-25 [Lost in Illusions]: aye. It's sad that I've come to realize that our culture ... for lack of a better word, sucks. Look at the Romantic/Realistic/Victorian era... they had Rousseau, Dostoyevsky, Edgar Allan Poe... we have...... Luanne Rice. What does that tell you?

2005-09-25 [Infiltration. Subversion. Chaos. Fun.]: That half the world's intellectuals to date must be turning in their graves?

2005-09-25 [Lost in Illusions]: I certainly would be. Hell, my stomach does churn when I walk by the "romance" section. There was a time when romance actually had meaning.. now it's about 90% smut and 10% actual substance, if that.

2005-09-25 [Infiltration. Subversion. Chaos. Fun.]: Well, even in those days, you'd have to suspend your own realism just to make the situations seem remotely possible.

2005-09-25 [Lost in Illusions]: True. But at the same time, things werent so taboo like they are today. Sure, they had their illegalities, but they were more.. guidelines, instead of shunning people because of what they were associated with.

2005-09-25 [Infiltration. Subversion. Chaos. Fun.]: More accurately, they typically didn't think of such things themselves. The only reason we're so inclined to doubt is because through mass media we become "informed." Never before have thoughts been so orderly and compiled, and reference material so close at hand at all times. Conformity was king.

2005-09-25 [Lost in Illusions]: was? Or is? Nonconformity ruled in the earlier years. People honestly had their individuality and they were not afraid of being differnet. Unfortunately, that is not now. Now, Conformity has become the king. We must find a group to be a part of and call ourselves this, so that we do not fall into the void of anonomity.

2005-09-25 [Infiltration. Subversion. Chaos. Fun.]: Was? Is? The greats always shine through, and all in all, that's all we really look at anyway.

2005-09-25 [Lost in Illusions]: This is true. And sad. Individualism will always be a minority as long as there is something that we can conform to..

2005-09-25 [Infiltration. Subversion. Chaos. Fun.]: True.

2005-09-25 [Lost in Illusions]: So sad. At least I'm not as clouded as the public.

2005-09-26 [AbLam]: Ha. Wow. I guess I...missed a ...lot...

2005-09-26 [drakkar]: O.o...as did i

2005-09-26 [Avoral]: Apparently you didn't miss much. It's the same old thing as before, just with a slightly different color to it. Though I do agree wholeheartedly.

2005-09-26 [Infiltration. Subversion. Chaos. Fun.]: Yes, cynical agreement is typical of your average witless hangaround.

2005-09-27 [Avoral]: Yes, attempts at pointless male domination are typical of your average uneducated Goth afficionado. Got anything you can put on your house that ISN'T inspired by ten minutes' read into the Nietzche experience? Nice paraphrasing, by the way.

2005-09-27 [drakkar]: nevermind your right exactly the same as when i left.......i feel a little better i suppose

2005-09-28 [AbLam]: Well. I am. Um. Confused. Slightly.

2005-10-07 [AbLam]: Hmm...[William the Bloody]. Tee hee.

2005-10-08 [girl. interrupted.]: You guys, we all know you have 'advanced intellect'. Quit doing the whole 'I can say anonimity. Oh, yeah? Well, I can say antidisestablishmentarianism!' It's gets pretty old.

2005-10-08 [drakkar]: meh

2005-10-08 [Angelic nightmares]: huh.......*ish confuzzled*

2005-10-08 [AbLam]: She says that they are tres conceited. Which is true.

2005-10-08 [Spanakopida]: I can say pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconeosis.

2005-10-08 [AbLam]: Wow. Impressive. I am amazed by your astounding intellectualness(??)

2005-10-08 [Spanakopida]: YOU SHOULD BE.

2005-10-08 [Angelic nightmares]: O.O pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconeosis? I can't even pronouce that......*hands [Spanakopida] a ribbon*

2005-10-08 [Spanakopida]: it's easy. you pronounce it just how it sounds, except for the pneumono part. because the P is silent :D

2005-10-08 [AbLam]: Like pneumonia.

2005-10-09 [Spanakopida]: exactly.

2005-10-09 [mutant virago]: *just had to pronounce it...the urge was too strong to ignore* Well... supercalifragilisticexpialidocious! Dammit!

2005-10-16 [Avoral]: Cry me a river, interrupted girl-child. Of course I'm tres conceited.

2005-10-16 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Well... I can pronounce "neprotivoconstitucionstwuwatelstwuwaite"... Which translated from Bulgarian means:"Don't anti-constitutionalize"...

2005-10-16 [Maurer's conclusions]: Floccinaucinihilipilification - the act or habit of esteeming or describing something as worthless, or making something to be worthless by said means

2005-10-16 [Lost in Illusions]: I was wondering what exactly that meant

2005-10-16 [Maurer's conclusions]: The word pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis is in fact a hoax, when this one guy tried to make a long theoretical word that might one day enter use if trends in medical word coinage were to continue. The real name for the disease is Pneumoconiosis.

2005-10-16 [Lost in Illusions]: fake words rock my socks.

2005-10-17 [Spanakopida]: HUSH.

2005-10-28 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Hm... Humbug... Loving it?  Here's a word designed to be the male version of "Bitch": "Bitchok". It uses the english word and adds a Bulgarian male ending.

2005-10-28 [girl. interrupted.]: Oui, [Avoral], tout le monde ici est tres conceite. Mais, moi j'ai juste nommer toi. Mais tout le monde le fait. Meme moi. Comme maintenant.

2005-10-28 [Lost in Illusions]: er... translation?

2005-10-29 [mutant virago]: Er... from what I gathered, she wrote "Yes, [Avoral], everyone here is really conceited. However, I (have? want?) "juste nommer" you. However everyone "le fait" (is? does it?) Same as me. Like "maintenant"." I could use babelfish to check, but I don't wanna...

2005-10-29 [Lost in Illusions]: hmmm, makes much more sense in Anglais ^^ For the record, I'm not conceited.. I'm narcissistic. ;)

2005-10-29 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: ... For the record. I'm not conceited nor narcissistic. I'm just... Well... Me.

2005-10-29 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: And... Stop it with the ((ugh)) fRENCh, ok?

2005-10-29 [Spanakopida]: I am conceited.

2005-10-30 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Oh...

2005-11-03 [girl. interrupted.]: I am conceited...

2005-11-03 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: ::shrugs:: Here's a joke for ya:

2005-11-03 [Goldice]: i can't see a joke

2005-11-03 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Then you have no sence of humor.

2005-11-03 [Goldice]: i do have a sense of humour thanks i just dont see anything funny about two purple lines

2005-11-04 [Falx]: There's supposed to be an image between the lines. The link's broken though...

2005-11-04 [Goldice]: ok thanks. now why couldnt someone have explained that rather than trying to be witty...

2005-11-05 [AbLam]: She said' yes, Avoral', everyone here is very conceited. But, I just named you. But everyone does it. Even me. Like right now.'

2005-11-05 [AbLam]: ((ugh)) french, [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]? Jeez!

2005-11-06 [mutant virago]: Whoa, "juste nommer", how could I not get that meant "just named". Dear Christ. I'll go bash my head against a blunt object now. But yay, I got most of it. ^_^

2005-11-07 [AbLam]: Don't bash thy head!

2005-11-08 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Hm... Odd... I dislike French. And... Funny- I see the image. The link shouldn't be broken...  http://free.data.bg/injudicator/pics/014.gif

2005-11-08 [mutant virago]: I love French. ^_^ And I can't see the image either. o_O

2005-11-09 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Well... Try thwe link I posted...

2005-11-09 [mutant virago]: I did!

2005-11-10 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Oh well... I'll upload it elsewhere... It's from a bulgarian site. Maybe you haven't the access...

2005-11-10 [Lost in Illusions]: How are my little pretties doing in here? I apologize for not being online lately, but my computer has a cold and I'm trying to nurse it back to health. Not to mention, I actually have a social life now, and I dont want to waste all my time online anymore. Yay, me ^_^ And yes, I concede. I am fairly conceited in my own way, but that's only because I know (and can prove) that I'm better than everyone else. Muaha.. haha... ha.

2005-11-10 [pelv13]: really? i'ld like to see your evidence (genuinely curious)

2005-11-10 [Lost in Illusions]: well, here's a bit of evidence, though it's mostly personal opinion on the matter that I think I am better than this particular person at the present moment. I was walking along the hallways of the university and noticed a person that I went to high school with. Now, she and I never really got along very well in the first place, but that's beside the point. Really, I'm curious as to why we never really got along because myself and her sister were best friends throughout high school. I think it has something to do with my superior talent in music and the fact that I always had first chair in band, and she could never surpass me. Anyway, back to the revelation. I called after her and>>>

2005-11-10 [Lost in Illusions]: tried to strike up conversation. Well, apparently she wasnt interested because, though she did speak and carry on conversation, she rushed to her car and left, when I just gave up talking to her. Now, again, this is simply personal opinion in the matter because of my outlook on the situation, but I feel myself to be superior to her in that I actually tried speaking with her and carrying on conversation, whereas she simply shrugged me off as if I were some stranger she'd never seen before. That's all the proof I have at the moment, but I can assure you, I am a superior being. :)

2005-11-10 [pelv13]: hmm... one down...

2005-11-10 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Hm... Ok, Einstein. Prove you're superior to me. Apart from music. I can sing, but I can't play anymore.

2005-11-11 [Falx]: Hey, Periods! Are you a member of Egotistical Bastards yet?

2005-11-11 [Lost in Illusions]: nope. And my ego is far too big for that little wiki, anyway. =P

2005-11-11 [Spanakopida]: Periods, I really don't like you. Just for future refrence.

2005-11-12 [Lost in Illusions]: You have no need to like me. Hell, you dont even need to tolerate me, but if you plan on continuing in participation of this wiki (especially since I'm under management of it for the moment) your personal feelings towards me need not come into light.

2005-11-12 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: ^_^ You people are funny.  ... ... ... BTW, anyone of you ever been to {BITCHFIGHT}?

2005-11-12 [Lost in Illusions]: never heard of it.

2005-11-12 [Spanakopida]: I'm just letting you know so you don't expect me to.

2005-11-12 [lordjoesnow]: i dont know you, you dont know me but please remove your petty coment about [Nymphette]. What good is it doing anyone having it there?

2005-11-13 [cuntstitches]: Good god. I thought her friends stopped bothering me about the section devoted to her. Tell her to feel honored she has been mentioned on this grand wiki.

2005-11-13 [cuntstitches]: Oh, yes. Piss off as well.

2005-11-13 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: My word! I thought we had given up on out discussions about [Nymphette]! WTF?

2005-11-13 [Goldice]: didnt we all.

2005-11-13 [lordjoesnow]: then whats the point in having it still ther, she didnt ask me to go on here..i just find it distasteful

2005-11-14 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: It's there to show others like her what fait awaits them if they do silly stuff. You should be there too if you keep it up.

2005-11-14 [lordjoesnow]: ooooo being called a cunt is a fate now is it?

2005-11-14 [Lost in Illusions]: You need to go away. She fucked up, and it's not going away anytime soon. Oh. fucking. well. Live with it.

2005-11-15 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: ::sits in the corner, lights a cigarette and blows some smoke at [lordjoesnow]:: Periods is right you know. Just stop bothering. go away and/or do something productive, or fun. Otherwise- challenge the boss to a Bitchfight. And fucking lose. Then leave the matter.

2005-11-15 [Lost in Illusions]: awww, you would assume that I'd win? I'm flattered.

2005-11-15 [Lost in Illusions]: damnit.. I deleted the last comment accidentally.. -_- sorry =\

2005-11-15 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Should I repost it?       "I assume any true member of this wiki can kick the ass of [Nymphette] and her kind. And her friends are her kind."

2005-11-15 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Or something of the sort. That's what I meant. And said...

2005-11-15 [Nymphette]: That is so offensive. I've been told the matter concerning me has been brought up again on this wiki, so i thought i would come to sort it out. As a friend of mine, [lordjoesnow], commented on something which he has jsut happened upon, not knowing the full story. whats written about me deserves to be up there, because periods is right, i did fuck up grandly. But, [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE], my dear, what you said about me and my so called 'kind' is very offensive. I don't quite know what you mean about that, but i assume you are probably referring to my non existant 'fake goth posse' that i so blatently use to whine at you lot to remove whats written above. Get the fuck over it. And if were getting >>>

2005-11-15 [Nymphette]: down to petty little bitchfights, as you so call them, and ass kicking, im sure i would kick yours with eloquency, and without any 'kind' of mine at all. You, if i recall, were not even here at the time this whole issue occured, so why don't you just, like, erm *thinks* shutthefuckup?

2005-11-15 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: ::was here when it all happened:: ::is tooo tired to argue:: ::shuts up and goes to bed::

2005-11-15 [Lost in Illusions]: *sigh* I leave for a few hours, and all of this unfurls... why? It was a mistake, but there is room for us all to repent, so what does it matter that the above instance is listed? I personally do not hold it against [Nymphette] for doing what she did. Truth be told, I believe we've all done it; others of us have just incorporated it into our lives and own words rather than repeating what some webpage says.

2005-11-16 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: True.

2005-11-16 [Lost in Illusions]: new name? Likey?

2005-11-16 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Yep. Not bad. Just one question- what's with you and LONG names?

2005-11-16 [Lost in Illusions]: *shrug* Just the way that they come out, I guess. I've tried the shorter names.. at one time it was "Abeo" which is the latin for "Change"

2005-11-16 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: ^_^ I used to be:"Jino "Bloodshed" Silver_flamE"... And started out with just Silver_flamE... Hm... Though "2 lost souls swimming in a fish boul" used to be a cool nick...

2005-11-16 [Lost in Illusions]: go for it. I just can't commit to the same name for a long while.. that's why my human form (off the computer) has like dozens of nicks.

2005-11-16 [pelv13]: i have remained pelv13 on every site i have been on since the seventh grade... short for pelvis (a nick name at the time, oddly enough)... i keep the name so people can find me, not because it particurally pleases me...

2005-11-17 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: ::shrugs:: Well... sometimes Jino is taken. Which sucks. It ALWAYS sucks when your nick is taken. I can't even create an e-mail account with my favourite nick :(   Otherwise some people know me as ChaoS around the web... Or as Yori... Or as ChildreN OF ChaoS... Lol! I gotta stop listing shit...

2005-11-17 [Lost in Illusions]: I got quite a few different names.. Kristos, Kitt, Chris (my birthname), perfeKtion, all of the random names I've found on here, and the list goes on...

2005-11-17 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: ^_^

2005-11-18 [Avoral]: Yay, this is what I like to see. Good work, my minions.

2005-11-18 [cuntstitches]: Avoral is like the benevolent grandfather, checking in from time to time.

2005-11-18 [Lost in Illusions]: I'd be a better owner if I werent so disinterested in the internet nowadays.

2005-11-18 [pelv13]: what is exciting in your life currently (if such a question is not presumptious)? further, are you satisfied with that?

2005-11-18 [cuntstitches]: Hah. That's why I temporarily stepped down from the position. I've been thinking lately about where I want this wiki to go. Hopefully I'll have some solid plans within the next few days that can be implemented.

2005-11-20 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Yay? Improvements?   BTW, dear [Avoral]... Why do you call us your minions? You are not the boss of us, nor our lord and master... WTF, I say, dear sir!

2005-11-20 [Infiltration. Subversion. Chaos. Fun.]: Damn right I am. Ever skipped a rock into a lake, and noticed the reflection of the rock below? Ever realized from there that when you throw said rock, you control not only the rock but the reflection as well? I have.

2005-11-22 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: I have too. but that is not relevant. You also control where it falls. You also control how many waves it casts. And still- that is not worth knowing if you cannot see the beauty of it all as one whole pretty picture.

2005-11-22 [Infiltration. Subversion. Chaos. Fun.]: I'd rather not sound like the original TV Batman explaining his plans. So I say, yeah, the rest of that was a given. Just think of what would have happened if C.S. Lewis sacrificed half the meditation in his tool-shed to talk about how there were actually sunspots ninety-three million miles away that slightly changed the beam of light he was looking at, thus making it an inconsistent beam. Occam made one hell of a razor, so don't be afraid to use it. Relevance indeed. <3

2005-11-22 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Erm... ::sklams head in desk:: Too tired to understand what you just said. just get to the point, eh? Even a GoD OF ChaoS needs some rest from time to time...

2005-11-24 [Avoral]: I said it IS relevant, just metaphorical, and that dragging the extra details you spoke of into the matter is just flogging the proverbial dead horse. I see the big picture easily. I'm sure anyone with half a brain can figure it out if they think a while longer than they're used to.

2005-11-24 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: NAh... I should actually try to think less. Otherwise I'll find more than the true meaning, thus deforming the message and leaving it open for various discussions, revolving around the Why and How of the aforementioned and the concept of relativity when it comes to little details that can be skipped, if not essential to the plot of the idea itself.

2005-11-25 [Infiltration. Subversion. Chaos. Fun.]: Or, rather, you'll find the true meaning, ignore it, and get stuck on something just to the left or right of it, given conversational geometry.

2005-11-25 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Exactly. Therefore, as we encourage people to think more, we should also find those that think TOO much on certain matters and reason with them, so that they can live their life instead of give too much thaught over every step they take, thus missing the timing and the point of living itself.

2005-12-01 [sparda.]: hello

2005-12-01 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Hi?

2005-12-01 [AbLam]: What, exactly are you arguing over? The meaning of what?

2005-12-01 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: No, my friend. we argue about the meaning of words. because sometimes the proper order of things may be a mystery and still recognisable, yet at other times it may be the opposite. we argue about words. we can even argue about the fact that we are arguing. Are we really arguing? It matters not. what matters is that most people nowadays don't think enough. But others think too much. And this is ballance as well.

2005-12-05 [AbLam]: Um. Ok. I could say some things about that sentence but there is no point. So, moving on.

2005-12-05 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: What could you say about the sentence? My curiousity is legendary after all.

2005-12-06 [beautiful _ darkness]: you are very right in what you said Jino but I sometimes do not think enough and others I think way to much

2005-12-06 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: ::bows:: Every intelligent person reaches the stage where they think too much sooner or later... And some are like me- they think either too much, too little or just right... And never can hold their ballance for long. ... though being both ends at the same time is ballance itself. Just not the center ballance.

2005-12-07 [beautiful _ darkness]: that is true and balance all and all is very important because if there was good but no evil the world would be boring but you also would have nothing to compare things to

2005-12-09 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Exactly. so ChaoS is the true path. Because ChaoS = Ballance.

2005-12-09 [beautiful _ darkness]: that seems so doesnt it

2005-12-10 [AbLam]: Just the 'it matters not' sentence. It sounded quite pompous.

2005-12-11 [Bumsoft]: FG admin: you get a little pointlessly wound up about nothing.

2005-12-12 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: BTW, I just heard the GREATEST goth-statement! "I'm SO GOTH my wrists bleed themselves"... Ponder at the geniousness of it all!

2005-12-13 [mutant virago]: Oh I'm totally pondering it. XD

2005-12-14 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: HAHAHA!!!

2005-12-19 [AbLam]: 'My wrists bleed themselves'... AHAHHAHAHHAHA

2005-12-20 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Gotta love it!

2005-12-23 [Spanakopida]: I wish my lawn was emo so it would cut itself.

2005-12-24 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: HAHAHAHAHA!!! Oh come on! What do you have against emo's? I myself have had my emo-moods. Everyone has had bad experiences in their lives. and EVERYONe has snapped at least once in their life.

2005-12-24 [pelv13]: well, there is a difference between having a bad time period (months, perhaps even a year or two when you are young) and exposing it to everyone as a badge of status... the feelings are not where i see a problem, but rather how they are dealt with... you are right jino, we all feel "down" sometimes, but it is best to deal with it on your own with a few friends... it isn't something to revel in, and let be...

2005-12-24 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: ::shrugs:: I know people, who feel better when they talk about their probs with lots of other people that don't know them well enough. And the net is perfect for finding such "listeners". Yet these people aren't exactly "emo". that's just their way of leting it all out and clearing their thoughts in search of a solution.

2005-12-24 [pelv13]: i can think of a few people that i use as "agony aunts", and a few that use me for the same... but it seems selfish to put this on everyone... and it seems that most who do have such things in the open for all to see are attention/pity seekers... i hold little regard for such attitudes...

2005-12-25 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Heh. Most are. but not all. I for instance, am a soul-bin myself. But at times I need to cry my eyes out too. And it's not because I need attention. It's because I simply ned to tell people "I'm not ok. don't bother me."

2005-12-25 [cuntstitches]: I'm leaving Elftown. Bye kiddos.

2005-12-25 [Lost in Illusions]: I'm rarely here anymore, so I guess I am too? Bah. Humbug. Merry Chrisma-hanu-kwanza-kah to everyone and a Happy Fucking Yule, too.

2005-12-26 [Simply Real]: solution to problems? Simple. But now none of you want to hear that, as some do thrive on whining, for if they wanted to get better, they would lift a finger and do something about it. Oh, and Merry CHRISTmas everyone.

2005-12-26 [Nymphette]: here here ;) jesus loves you ><

2005-12-26 [Spanakopida]: It was just a dumb joke.. everyone's like omg why do u hate emos?/sjhgiudfg but the whole general style is just easy to make fun of. Even other emo kids make fun of emo kids. rlly.

2005-12-26 [Simply Real]: Emo bashing! HEH. well lets see... I remember standing in the smoke pit at school, when a group of really sad looking girls who were emos got all excited and said were taking pictures! They then proceded to take a pic and before they did one girl piped up! ok ok! We gota look emo though you gota look really emo! Then suddenly their smiles disapeard and there was that sad "im so pathetic" look on their faces as the flash went! Like... what the !?

2005-12-27 [Lost in Illusions]: Hehe, I find it amusing that you spend all of December preparing and celebrating the birthdate of a mortal on a day that doesnt even coincide with his original birth. Furthermore, I find it even more amusing that people feel the need to push such a religion on others when they dont even know the true and full story of this Jesus Christ's birth, life, etc. In fact, the ones that claim to be true Christians know this relation of his true life versus his divinity by the Constantine church and could care less about how others deal with the religion, as long as they have their own ideology. Another idea that I find amusing is the fact that others accuse

2005-12-27 [Lost in Illusions]: us (witches and pagans respectively) of being blasphemous by worshipping numerous gods when they celebrate the life and time of a mortal that was divined by Constantine, king in the dark ages (circa 500), in order to keep the inciting riot between the pagans and original Christians.. where the pagans more than outnumbered the originals. In fact, the dates that you celebrate your Christ's life and whatnot coincides (or rather, were originally) pagan holy days. For example, the birthdate that you celebrate Jesus on (Christmas - Dec 25) is around the same date that is believed to be the origin of Isis and other gods.

2005-12-27 [Lost in Illusions]: Another interesting fact is the origin of heresy: the original Christians that chose to follow the pre-Constantine texts, that relate Jesus' life as a mortal, were called "heretics" which in latin translates to "choice" So, the word heresy as it has been known to many as "deviant from the Church" is really completely wrong compared to the original meaning. I so could have been a heretic.

2005-12-27 [Lost in Illusions]: ^_^ I love ranting. Thank you [Simply Real] for allowing me to do so.

2005-12-27 [Simply Real]: Ranting is good. Yeah theres all kinds of technicalities like that. But that what prevents so many people from meeting God, their minds. Their minds get in the way of their hearts. Humans like to always think they have everything figured out...When we dont evev have the slightest clue, as you pointed out about christians not truly knowing christ. Interesting thing... a true Christian, is not religious, caught up in practices and dates and the details of it all. Rather theyd get to know the Eternal Chirst who is very much alive. Christianity should not be looked at as a religion, rather a relationship with the living God. then we do get to know all the details, that we didnt previously know

2005-12-27 [Lost in Illusions]: Exactly. If a true Christian, such as you claim to be, were nothing but a spiritual person on a quest to know the "true eternal Christ" then why push it? What matters it if not everyone follows your same beliefs? Or even more, if someone has actual proof that your religion may not be as divine as you wish to believe? I suppose it all comes down to faith.. what one person wishes to believe based on the plausibility placed behind the theories. In my mind, it is much more possible for the world to have been created by a big bang with the aide of many different, but equally important dieties rather than one big bad dude creating the entire world by himself and governing the trillions of

2005-12-27 [Lost in Illusions]: people that live on this world. I just find it highly unlikely that this "God" could be that omnipotent, allowing everything that has happened in the world to be so and still have people call him omnibenevolent.

2005-12-28 [Simply Real]: Hm, I dont push anything, force anything. I speak when I should speak, when God asks me or when someone asks. I speak when relevant and when the arrow of truth will peirce the heart. At no other time, or the effort is pointless and does more harm than good. Religiosity does no one any good, trying to build a church by force is not the way at all. Rather with what its really all about, love. Simple love and faith, knowng that it is only God who changes people and not the people selling their crap or forcing it. I once stood on the other side, screaming at forcful cristians, but in time, God called me and here I am. I have all the proof I need to know the divinity of my faith, no i need not

2005-12-28 [Simply Real]: push it or try to convince anyone or argue it. Although as a overzelous new Christain I was a little out of controll with my excitement at discovering something supernatural... Should you ever call upon Jesus and his spirit, the possibility of anything being unlikly fades. First mistakes us people make, we put God in a box, and let our heads get in the way. I know I did at one point.

2005-12-28 [Lost in Illusions]: hmmm, that last comment (or rather, set of) actually made me form a bit of respect for you. Congratulations. You also remind me of a character I read about in The Da Vinci Code by Dan Brown. I'm not sure if you have read that one, but the character's name was Silas. He was a down-and-out monk, brought back to life by a kindly bishop. The problem with him, though, is that he believed too much in allowing "God" to control him rather than doing its work through his own free will. This is what I see happening with you, sometimes, that you rely too much on allowing "God" to speak with you and control you rather than relaying his word in your own choice and life.